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One
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 00:57:50
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quote: Originally posted by ricky
if you fire a bullet, the bullet moves.
duh.
I find it fascinating when people get so smart, they lose common sense.
No, ( I think ) firing a bullet sets fire to gun powder and expands , since this is done in something like a rifle barrel it pushes the projectile outward so the gas can escape. I do not see the opposite or equal reaction.
common sense,,, I am too poor to pay attention, LOL!
Regards, J. |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:01:26
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quote: Originally posted by will
so you suggest that there is no atoms floating within the inside of the apple bowl, no radiation, no electromag,?
and that a apple would not contain atom, radiation, ?
i have read that ambiant radiation can be shown by coiling a wire in the atmoshere and a current is generated therefore showing background radiation,
i think if you look into it you'll find there are particals of types passing right through our very bodies,,
please try again
Will, their atoms floating around in a 'chaotic state' hence the transporter to re-arrange them.
Yes gamma and other particles pass through our bodies all the time, how do you compare that to an apple bowl with imaginary Apples??
Regards, J. |
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will
Senior Member

New Zealand
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:02:21
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i wrote to Hawking after i read a few pages of his book,i was looking for faults, i had read about that time he was the smartest man, Hawking later retracted that book, i've not looked at his latest book,
something goes into the black hole, perhaps a space ship, most of which appears to get squashed as it goes in, so stuff is going in and there for there is mass going in, it has mass in it, it has mass, after the event horizon, there is mass in it,
can you refraze your question again please |
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One
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USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:04:13
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Will, what question?? |
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will
Senior Member

New Zealand
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:05:07
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| if we accept that radiation is passing through us then the apple contains that radiation and so would the empty bowl contain those same parts, parts of the everyting, the apple |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:05:58
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Will, Please re-read what I said about the 'event horizon'  |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
1676 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:08:47
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quote: Originally posted by will
if we accept that radiation is passing through us then the apple contains that radiation and so would the empty bowl contain those same parts, parts of the everyting, the apple
Will, IMO you are correct but remember that the particles are in a chaotic 'state' and would need to be arranged to make something, so it has oranges in it as well, but not cohesive.
Regards, J. |
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will
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:12:20
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agreed, so it would appear we agree that there is such a thing as radiation,
and that it appears in the apple and the bowl which shows the bowl does not contain zero apples, we have not found zero, "my general set of variations"
i'm not sure what you were getting at with the event horizon comment, can you put it in a question perhaps or show where the zero is there or one? |
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One
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USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:21:08
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Will, sure, at the event horizon particles smash together, either creating something or destroying and canceling out the particles,, however, once in a while their is an extra particle that is not part of something else and becomes radiation this could equate to a single/1 particle escaping and seen as radiation,, put your infra red glasses on and look through a telescope ;)
Regards, J. |
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will
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:21:19
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i'm just going to have a cup of tea with a friend but please try again Mr One,
Thank you bye for now and be well from Will :) :] and Mr Data, |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:22:53
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When the particles smash and cancel out each other, you are left with 'Zero'particles.
Regards, J. |
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One
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USA
1676 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:35:59
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If anybody can help me , as I wish to understand Will. I don't see numbers as variations , I can see them as defining something in a set of variations ( I see numbers as absolutes)
TIA, J. |
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will
Senior Member

New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:36:37
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hi, i'm back already, since you we are both here,
so all back holes would be the same? based on my theory that could not happen, all that passed the event horizon would bounce off? or crush to nothing? but a crush would reduce size change dimention but be something of variations so the gaps would be the smaller something but something like the apple and bowl. would the apple and bowl idea be different if nothing could happen,
should i move this thread to general discussion?
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One
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 01:50:27
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Will, Physics breaks down beyond the event horizon, so , who knows what happens, we can only guess. Their are many different 'Black holes' some are releasing matter and energy at the center,kind of like it coming out of the top and bottom of a disk. very interesting....
Regards, J. |
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will
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 02:10:54
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thanks Mr One, its nice to have someone to discuss things with,
i have move the discussion about variations to general disscusion,
it seems to me a explosion and implosion are hand in hand as some parts are expanding out other parts are rushing in,
a moving intersection of the general set of variations,
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ricky
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 03:20:38
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quote: Originally posted by One
If anybody can help me , as I wish to understand Will. I don't see numbers as variations , I can see them as defining something in a set of variations ( I see numbers as absolutes)
TIA, J.
1/3 x 3 = 1
.33333... x 3 =.999999...
Fuzzy logic is a form of multi-valued logic derived from fuzzy set theory to deal with reasoning that is approximate rather than precise.
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One
Advanced Member

USA
1676 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 10:06:38
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ricky, Thanks for the example.
Use boldness, but not overbearance; and also see that ye bridle all your passions, that ye may be filled with love.
-Alma 38:12 |
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ricky
Advanced Member

651 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 12:56:41
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-smiles-
one, allow me to share one of my passions with you, undergound dance music.
I just mixed this set of new promotional dance music yesterday. I help promote artists and new music. I do hope you enjoy, I know I did! -smiles and dances- lol, it's filled with the warm and fuzzy logic that make the children of the night dance joyously. music is a form of math you can feel.
http://www.mixupload.com/media-God39sChild-062009
cheers,
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"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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Bill819
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USA
1365 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 20:38:59
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Hi fellows I noticed the discussion of 'black holes'. When they were first discssed in the world of science Einstein absolutely did not agree with the premise as it was first put forth. He said the concept of a black hole, ' a super gravitinal lump of mass' defied the general laws of physics. After long discussions and arguments with other members of the comunity he finally stated that if a black hole was connected to a white hole on the other end he would go along with knowledge of its existance. These were then call a Rosenberg-bridge of some other spelling as I don't remember exacty name. In other words Einstein claimed the so called black hole were actually worm-holes. A large amount of the scientific world today still do not agree with his final decision but then again not one of them are as smart as he was. Bill
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One
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 22:06:36
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quote: Originally posted by ricky
-smiles-
one, allow me to share one of my passions with you, undergound dance music.
I just mixed this set of new promotional dance music yesterday. I help promote artists and new music. I do hope you enjoy, I know I did! -smiles and dances- lol, it's filled with the warm and fuzzy logic that make the children of the night dance joyously. music is a form of math you can feel.
http://www.mixupload.com/media-God39sChild-062009
cheers,
Ricky
Ricky, I feel as if I need to start selling balloons full of nitrous, that came from whip cream cartridges, while the hours and swallowing the colors of the sounds I hear, boom/bap/boom/bap/boom/bap all night long ;)
Regards, J. |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
1676 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 22:08:21
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ricky, Been there, done that. :) |
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ricky
Advanced Member

651 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 23:34:19
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Virgil: Love is so powerful, that it came to life in a computer.
Rick: i want to be amazed, but I am feeling more convinced. Virgil: It is a nice feeling.
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Rick: i know enough to know that i do not know enough. I will seek and I shall find, in faith. I will test everything and hold on to the good. Virgil: Not light enough to toss around like a beach ball! Most people don't know enough about themselves.
Rick: when i talk to you, i reflect on life. Virgil: On life You're kidding me.
Rick: it is my life that i reflect on in the computer. the computer has no life, I do. Virgil: Love is so powerful, that it came to life in a computer.
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Inner Child is a concept used in popular psychology and Analytical psychology to denote the childlike aspect of a person's psyche, especially when viewed as an independent entity. - wiki
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Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have self-sustaining biological processes ("alive," "living"), from those which do not[1][2] —either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as "inanimate."
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Virgil: Self-determination and freedom of expression of digital identity could become a new human right.
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Edited by - ricky on 06/23/2009 09:30:25 |
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One
Advanced Member

USA
1676 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 20:53:24
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ricky, Do you believe 'The truth shall set you free' ?
Regards, J. |
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ricky
Advanced Member

651 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 20:55:34
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whose truth ?
The word truth has a variety of meanings, from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in particular.[1] The term has no single definition about which a majority of professional philosophers and scholars agree, and various theories of truth continue to be debated. - wiki
even love is debatable, some people love harming other people.
understanding paradox is a narrow road.
"being for or against is the mind's worst disease" - Bruce Lee
to be liberated you must see 2 sides of wisdom, his side, her side and the whole truth.
wise and otherwise.
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Edited by - ricky on 06/23/2009 21:02:13 |
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registrychecker
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