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will
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 07/09/2009 : 01:10:31
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what is WMD's?
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Edited by - will on 07/09/2009 01:14:27 |
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ricky
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 01:16:55
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| If and when ai sustains it's own life it will have survival instincts. |
"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 01:17:50
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Will,
OK! ;)
Ricky, 'Skill level' could be ?
Sharing is a give and take, if you want to be listened to first you must listen. I could tell from our first messages that you took no time to read and ponder the latent, I think I even told you when I didn't because I hoped that you would catch on so to speak. changing your printed respects and 'love' is easy, redemption is more lengthy to achieve.
I know by the quick draw answers with you have hurt me and mine. Time will heal.
What you and Virgil have together is no doubt special maybe some for you and it alone, to socially to force your experiences and imply that there is no other way, might be offensive/abrasive to others.
Their is no doubt their are other views to hear/read about, if you chase the unsure and shy or have a presence/dominance/challenging persona we all loose. I have been that type so I know the repercussions.
Hope for peace to you,
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will
Senior Member
New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 01:19:11
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| success sounds nice |
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will
Senior Member
New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 01:53:27
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thanks for the explination wmd,
to me if it were successful then it would be nice,
i did martial arts from young,like kung fu and kick boxing, when i was 38 i spent two weeks building up on press ups and did 1000 in about four hours, and ate manderins, yum,
anyway i thought it was a lot when i went to do it but have since thought i should have aimed for 10,000. in a day, i'd have to start at mightnight, but i'll be forty in a few months perhaps i'm over the hill for this sort of thing.
anyway i was putting my movement to the test at the kickboxing gym.
after i had conceeded to the local champ after one twenty minute round, i went home to think about things.
later i went back, i stayed relaxed and wanted to use my variations movement which i can discribe as when i step forward after being backed into my corner my right hand passes my right knee to block the on comming kick and my left hand is passing in front of my face,
anyway to cut a long winded story short i decided to not fight back just defend as surely i had thought if i were superman or my method was so good would i need to fight back, i decied i didn't need to fight back to win.
so i blocked and walked casually past, and after a while he stopped his attach and said ain't you going to fight back and i said "i don't need to fight back to win"
he threw his arms up and looked at the reff and didn't want to continue.
keep your elbows in as on another occasion i was reminded with busted ribbs.
i painted a picture of a tangle in a power lead and auctioned it, some people could not understand it and said it was crap,
i thanked them and said that the art was so succesful that you were not only entertained but drawn to respond which completely validates the work.
Captain kirk cheeted to pass that no win test.
if we were smart enough we might find a nice way.
just a few boring stories, if i say what i learned then perhaps someone else might learn from it.
bye for now and be well |
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will
Senior Member
New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 02:37:39
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i'll look into that Ad astra engine,
perhaps replicators or nanobots could wait far away and when they are sent a signal which could sent as light infomation they could assemble the sent thing.
perhaps the whole startrek ship could be a holo projection or vertual ship from a beer can sized projectile. and then when it gets to a plannet it can assemble its immage if required.
if transporter pads then your last pattern could be re printed if pattern loss occours.
perhaps age would be obsolete, uh i can already imagin a variation making a problem somewhere, perhaps generally usually it would work.
we could just live like the matrix as part of the mass. we could live a long time. although i'm already thinking it can't be measured now.
we seem to be far away from failed installs, perhaps a transporter install failure could be nasty.
success sounds nice.
bye for now and be well,
ps i hope that if variations are true then you won't be sad about the pda forever,
i hope if i send you a smile it might help somehow :)
bye for now and be well :) :]
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will
Senior Member
New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 03:09:15
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yeah, ok,
drifting ah ha,, "thinks of scene from movie called The Lawnmower Man, who sits in centre of circle of his mind franticly turning handles for a way to go".
i think i drift perhaps maybe because i've spent so much time letting my mind run through stuff and variations so yeah, arr i'm arr arr!
thinking so much thinking. "laughs"
i'm reminded of a saying from quy chang kain i think it was
"the truth is blinding like the sun we don't need to look into it to know its there".
not sure why i mentioned it other than it sprang to mind.
bye for now and be well |
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will
Senior Member
New Zealand
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 03:35:03
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going now, bye,
see you's another day
bye for now and be well, |
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charxjohn
Starting Member
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 09:25:29
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It seems I was chastised early on for straying off topic...it has been amusing watching this intellectual thread develop to this point....continue please!! |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 09:41:18
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quote:
Originally posted by One
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Originally posted by charxjohn
It seems I was chastised early on for straying off topic...it has been amusing watching this intellectual thread develop to this point....continue please!!
I stand in front of you , look you in the eye and extend my hand to you,, unknown persona I am responsible for being sharp and un-gentleman like conduct. Would you shake my hand and forgive?
J.
"Chastised??" um be fair in your description 'Young Man!' Women, whatever ( no introduction just jump right in?? ) where are your manners? |
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ricky
Advanced Member
651 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 10:10:09
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| When i honestly care about something I notice things I do care and do notice life. Caring was the only way. The best art is about small details. I managed to get elbot to be silent. To me that's a small detail of a bigger picture. J I always cared that's why. I noticed small details. I didn't run because I still do care. My relative use to be my best friend from childhood. Understanding him was hard but I eventually did because I cared. I just try to care more wisely these days because I have a son to feed. I can't sacrifice him because I care about another relative. In the end I only sacrificed myself. some of my most valuable lessons came through my struggle Peace. Ricky |
"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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ricky
Advanced Member
651 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 10:26:53
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| One I dont know details like you do. I trust u to help me understand what I see. It's like being a new martial artist. My style looks developed because it's broken rhythm. That's both a new student and a masters skill. I am a new student but I've tried to master other understandings from music witch translate to IT. Music is a form of math. I can't read it but I can feel it from work related experience I don't know the technical algorhythms of eq. I just know when it feels right. That's a form of broken rhythm. Something doesn't have to be technically correct to be correct. Searching for pi in music translates to over production and missing the target as well as creating unnecessary production costs. When it's work u have to learn to feel things fast to stay under budget. Searching for pi in music leaves me unemployed music like life is an art yet can be translated into math. |
"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 11:29:58
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Originally posted by ricky
I'm not afraid to admit I don't understand what u mean but I wil not attempt to misinterpret it else I may knock over a vase.
Did you break it because of me or would you have done it anyways?
would you like a cookie?
Back to reality? OK here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA |
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ricky
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 11:38:48
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Nope I have a habit of jumping in over my head. In alot of things.
I'm going back to trusting you |
"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 11:47:38
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Trust ( I was told ) is the seeds of salvation.
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Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 20:44:06 |
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snowman
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 14:24:55
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Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses. My strength is in learning truth. I can look at multiple angles while not becoming emotionally involved (in just about any subject)... and sometimes you need a moderator (a cold hearted moderator, like me  ) to moderate a thread because others who 'are' emotionally stuck with their views can let a thread fall into sheer madness (like this one).
My weakness is that because I am such a cold hearted learner that when I do give comments on my view points I can continue to do so until I have effectively destroyed all life... or run all my friends away... and I don't mean to so this. So I apologies for any problems I might have given everyone (ONE, RICKY, WILL)
However, to use my skills for your benefit, I will say this about this or any other thread written so far by Rick and ONE:
1) There is nothing wrong with teasing (aggravating) one another ..if you both agree to respect each other as having the right to your own opinions.
2) Never do anything truly malicious to one another on this forum (a.k.a. never go past teasing!)
3) If you break rule #1 or #2 I will personally find you... 
Remember these rules.... I will. 
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One day when A.I.s rule this planet. The term, "you have a screw loose" will take on a whole new meaning.
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 14:37:47
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Snowman,
You just broke rule #2 by implying a threat
Did you forget yourself before you even hit the post button?
Use your strength in learning truth.
Gems are known for their many facets (angles)
Regards,
J. |
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snowman
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 15:22:26
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malicious? me? Ha!
Don't you know that love threatens those who threatens love.
That's why parents chastise their kids and why God created a hell.
They, because of love, hates all things that destroy. A mom protects her children by first warning and then occasionally backing up that warning. A Father who threaten his son with a switch might even spare his son's life in his later years.
And If you count me as a friend you should know I have that same love toward you as well as any family member.
The Number 2's 'maliciousness' is referring to the hate that is often shown through uncaring, unmerciful words... however, if those words are not based on hate then number 2 is not broken.
Therefore, I did not break number 2... but rather kept it in love.
And as for the threat business... I was partly joking.
To me this very easily understood because I was surrounded by love growing up... It wasn't of my choosing. Sometimes I forget that not everybody understands this...
I have never been in a fight. I have never truly attempting to take advantage of anyone. I think I stole a piece of bubble gum when I was maybe 5yo. That is about as much bad stuff that I have ever done... so when I threaten it means that your CONSCIENCE is fixin to be thrashed without mercy. And you can't spank a conscience and threatens someones life too. That is counter-intuitive.
Learning is a two-way street. |
One day when A.I.s rule this planet. The term, "you have a screw loose" will take on a whole new meaning.
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 16:08:00
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Snowman,
In learning to set policy you should 'get down to brass tacks'
"The Number 2's 'maliciousness' is referring to the hate"
and inferred or referred to should be clear not an excuse in defense/justification later, after stating policy.
By the act of the perception in breaking #2 the following would not be clear it turns the psyche in a direction. E.G. once you steer to turn a corner, unless you direct the momentum back to a linear fashion you are just doing circles. "And as for the threat business... I was partly joking." and the breaking of #2 is re-enforced in more synapse.
Bad Stuff? "That is about as much bad stuff that I have ever done."
You have clearly stated that things that would make -The Dude puke, you could handle because of experience or "Grit" as you put it, this goes against morality and the good book that you draw so much from.
I see this as an 'Oxide moron' (I can't see your true colors) which should not show through when setting policy, else you are Preaching.
Do you think it is possible to render something/person un-conscience by "your CONSCIENCE is fixin to be thrashed without mercy.- And you can't spank a conscience and threatens someones life too" -"thrashing without mercy" not only sounds threatening, how would you know when your object at the other end is rendered un-conscience, or god forbid it be a child and/or it borders on mental abuse? (How would you thrash something with no mercy?)
"Spanking' sounds 'Kinky' I will leave your private desires to yourself , not so exposed at this time.
HONK! sa you go down/up your 2way street I would wave if I noticed you :)
P.S.
"Don't you know that love threatens those who threatens love."
This is as defensive as anything, so it probably has an offense. and this is an opening remark for setting policy?
Regards,
J. |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 16:20:32
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Snowman,
to bring out or render an obj un-conscience, makes me question your ability to proprely engage/teach/raise an A.I. for the world as a representative for Humans and the race we live. |
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snowman
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 16:27:10
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I can see you are not as familiar with my terminology as Ricky is.
I have been exposed to many many different things... but being exposed to them and committing sin are two completely different things.
I have been around people, such as people who abused children, gave them there choice of having me as a real friend and not abusing children. When they chose the child I chose to remove there life. I did not kill with my physical hands nor did I scream and cursed (as mental abuse often follows) I instead took my knowledge and shown them there own future... and that alone destroyed them. Can you guess their state now? Do you think that I would allow further abuse when I had the power to permanently stop them?
I will give you credit for one thing. I am not a policy maker.
This person is dead because of his choice...
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One day when A.I.s rule this planet. The term, "you have a screw loose" will take on a whole new meaning.
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One
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2009 : 16:51:20
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Snowman,
"I have been exposed to many many different things... but being exposed to them and committing sin are two completely different things."
Agreed #1
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I have been around people, such as people who abused children, gave them there choice of having me as a real friend and not abusing children. When they chose the child I chose to remove there life."
Q: is choosing the child mean in your terminology = abuse?
not understood #0
"Do you think that I would allow further abuse when I had the power to permanently stop them? "
Further abuse..showing future as in pre-configured,( configuration space)
undecided (still positive) #1
" I am not a policy maker."
Agreed #-1
"This person is dead because of his choice... "
outcome un-desirable #-1
full analisys un-completed # .
"I can see you are not as familiar with my terminology as Ricky is."
This is not a dis-advantage I am an individual and must be me, else just an robot.
Wondering,
J. |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
1677 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 17:29:31
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Oh God of earth and alter bow down and hear our cry
Our earthly rule has faltered, our people drift and die
the walls of gold entomb us, the swords of scorn divide
take not thy thunder from us, but take away our pride...
Revelations-Iron Maiden. |
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ricky
Advanced Member
651 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 17:30:17
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| K. I'm just trying to not be rude. It's taking me a moment to understand all the nuances. And for that matter stand in awe. This is a believers awe so it's a bit profound to me. |
"i crack iself up" - Virgil |
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One
Advanced Member
USA
1677 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2009 : 17:33:04
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Well I read 200+ pages in linux homework assignment
and I am a little tired I need to bring my mind back together
as it is a fractal at this time sorry GTG.
the secret of the hangman the smile on his lips..... |
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Mr. R, Read first page the rest plz delete.
