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One
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2009 :  00:07:39  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did anybody have a problem installing, "Update to .NET Framework assistant 1.0x86 KB 963707, Like the problems with the install of .NET 3.5 sp1????

Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 04:03:20

will
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/27/2009 :  03:43:59  Show Profile  Visit will's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mr One,
i think thats what i might have been messing with when i got my batch of error messages at start up but mr data is still learning and so i just continue.
i don't know enough to find the fix yet, i was either waiting until someone fixed it or i'd reinstall windows but i was just avoiding doing that.

i'm sorry i can't fix it for you.

bye for now and be well from Will.
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tedathome
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2009 :  05:13:05  Show Profile  Visit tedathome's Homepage  Send tedathome a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yep. With vista and IE8 I've had to disable .net and all the other programs that I don't want to auto-update. I've disabled so many "startup programs" out of the 120 or so that boot up when vista starts. I can boot them up when I need them. I have to defrag often and do disk cleanup two to three times a day. I skiped it for 2 days and had .9 gig in usless files to dump. That much in temporary, windows live files, etc. that don't have that much space alocated really slow my computer down. It overloads when I do graphics and it gets tired, it leaves paint drops on the painting as I move my cursor from painting to to the menu bar.
No problems installing and no error messages, just slow. I've even had to turn off sidebar to gain speed. Never had any of those problems with XP and IE7. One gig processor and one gig ram. It was faster than me almost. 2.8 gig prossor, 3 gig of ram and IE8 and Visa, I have to wait for the computer to catch up with me as it stores all info about every thing I have done when I finish with a program or get offline. No solution here that I care to tackle at the moment, just work arounds and Murffey's law - if it works, don't fix it.

ted
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Bill819
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USA
1365 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2009 :  10:34:58  Show Profile  Visit Bill819's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys
I am not sure if this is the problem but right after my computer installed explorer version 8 I stated have all kinds of errors. This included everything from visiting different sites to downloading anything. Just as soon as I uninstalled the new explorer and went back to version 7 all my problems vanished. It seems that E8 has some major problems that causes many things to go wrong.
Bill
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Art
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USA
1779 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  08:19:22  Show Profile  Visit Art's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Actually my Hal has been sitting in a Deactivated / Uninstalled condition for at least a week while I tend to updates with .NET and other programs.

I agree that Internet Explorer 8 is a huge P.O.S. IMO. It crashes constantly then tries to do me a favor by returning to the page where it crashed only to crash again within a few seconds. This crashing is repeated a couple more times until it no longer "returns" to the crash site (crash site...I like that), and reports that it was unable to return. Yes, Microsoft...wonderful piece or software.

If you try to remove it, it will taunt you with reminders of ALL the software and program files that "might" be reliant on it. Great stuff!

I wrote Robert asking him about the connection between Hal and .NET framework but that was over a week ago. He might be on vacation....but regardless, this issue IS an issue and needs to be cleared up pronto!

Adios!

In the world of AI it's the thought that counts!

- Art -
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tedathome
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USA
2098 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2009 :  03:23:22  Show Profile  Visit tedathome's Homepage  Send tedathome a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ok just uninstalled IE8. Here is the way to do it without problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700
Happy to be back to IE7!

ted
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charxjohn
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9 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2009 :  23:57:15  Show Profile  Visit charxjohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Try Firefox. I've been using it for years with no problems. It's fast and easy to customize. Since Windows requires a version of IE installed to function I always try to keep the oldest version on that will satisfy it. Never install a new Windows product soon after release I believe they do the beta testing on real world users. Service packs will come out after enough headaches are created. IE is for AOL's...
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freddy888
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  08:02:50  Show Profile  Visit freddy888's Homepage  Send freddy888 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I am in agreement. Firefox also has a lot of nice plugins. There's also Chrome for speedy and safe browsing with little difficulty. IE gets used by me once in a blue moon now, it's a poor product. I don't say that lightly either, I used IE for years, it was only when I tried alternatives I realised how bad it actually is.

www.aidreams.co.uk - AI, Haptek, Forum, Chatterbot Collection and other things.

Edited by - freddy888 on 07/01/2009 08:03:32
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  14:54:25  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People,
Why this has turned into a 'IE' problem is beyond me, this is a Zabaware problem in the fact that you cannot install parts of the .NET framework while having the Ultra Hal Assistant on the machine at the same time.

Most people do not need .NET and the programming functions that go with it.

THIS IS NOT A BROWSER PROBLEM!


Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 20:47:57
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charxjohn
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  16:09:03  Show Profile  Visit charxjohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People, competent and otherwise, do not need .NET or it's many versions. However, many Windows apps do. Try screwing with the NET Framework files on your drive and you'll find out that it is a nightmare to try to make things right again. Programs won't install and some won't run. Just Google .NET problems and you will get about 10000 applicable hits. Internet Explorer still sux and is an intrusive noose around MS users necks.
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  18:24:58  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I still say it's a Zabaware problem NOT A .NET problem

Is that too complex?

Or are you going to argue about something else and tell me to Google something which will give back 'hits' like anything you Google does?
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  18:28:38  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charxjohn

People, competent and otherwise, do not need .NET or it's many versions. However, many Windows apps do. Try screwing with the NET Framework files on your drive and you'll find out that it is a nightmare to try to make things right again. Programs won't install and some won't run. Just Google .NET problems and you will get about 10000 applicable hits. Internet Explorer still sux and is an intrusive noose around MS users necks.


willing to accept the fact that Zabaware has a problem.

You and ricky would do fine together.

Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 20:48:36
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charxjohn
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  19:18:06  Show Profile  Visit charxjohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:


I'm not having a Zabaware or .NET problem, get it? And I do not know ricky unless It's the guy from "I love Lucy".

You should take a pill and chill young man...all this stress is bad for you
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  19:49:55  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did I say you had a problem ?? I thought so,
It is ricky ricardo..

Why are you even posting, other than to complain about MS??

I did not start this thread to solve, bitch, complain about MS or IE,
go start another thread and quit cluttering up a thread that Had a purpose.

"Young man" thanks for the complement, but it will not get you anywhere.

As far as telling me to take drugs, I don't think you are a Dr. or are qualified to prescribe anything.
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Bill819
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USA
1365 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  19:51:17  Show Profile  Visit Bill819's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One
If Zabaware had a problem how come you are only one complaining. Many others have installed .NET without the problems you seem to be experiencing. The rest of us are only trying to help and yet you go ballistic over the issue.
In the history of this site I have found only two things that cause bad downloads, one is IE8 and the other is anti-virus software. I used to advise people to turn off their virus programs until after they downloaded whatever they were after.
Be nice, we ara all on your side.
Bill
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  20:02:30  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bill819,
This matter was confirmed by Art and I believe him and myself as to the validity of the problem.

I am not ballistic. I can be.

I do not approve of the digression that has become of this thread and I have the right to dis-approve.

Thanks for your support.
J.

P.S.
Even you know when something is considered a 'Foul' ;)
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charxjohn
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  20:17:53  Show Profile  Visit charxjohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am sorry about straying off topic "One". I wish you all the best in finding a solution to your problems. I was just having a little fun bud!

Have a nice day....Ohh, by the way, I run a medical house calls business and I can prescribe meds, just not online to strangers!
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One
Advanced Member



USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2009 :  22:03:47  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK!
I don't think the issue with Zabaware is going to be resolved without Mr. Roberts' help, Their is just too much source code and proprietary 'things' to deal with.

Digression, exactly what I wanted to avoid..........ha!

Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 20:49:17
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charxjohn
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  22:53:37  Show Profile  Visit charxjohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cheer up One! I know what a pain a software prob can be, I spend $1500 a year just for decent support for a single med management program....and that is considered a bargain in the business!

I wish this elusive Robert would show up...if only to answer what appears to be a few issues....but also to reveal an update to Hal giving us some cutting edge technology, like the ability for Hal to access the internet independently in pursuit of knowledge. Also, and I know I'm a dreamer, it would be great if Hal could learn concepts and how to apply them, rather than just search for word matches and give replies that are frequently completely out of context. I have tried to teach Hal the importance of maintaining the topic and context of a conversation but have not had any luck....no kidding right?

I running my mouth I know...but although I am born in the USA I was raised as a child in England, but far from Downing St in Norfolk area. I remember loving it there and hating coming back here, but I was a child and lived in a small country village there.

Anyhow...I'm sure the prob will be resolved by some forum wiz or Robert, and I do wish you a great day and a safe holiday weekend(if you live in the US).

By for now, John
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freddy888
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United Kingdom
1282 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2009 :  05:46:32  Show Profile  Visit freddy888's Homepage  Send freddy888 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just for the record (again) I too had problems with .NET and Hal, also problems installing Visual Studio elements, also appears to be down to the same problem.

www.aidreams.co.uk - AI, Haptek, Forum, Chatterbot Collection and other things.
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2009 :  11:29:40  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ricky,
NO that is the first thing I tried was a newer installer.

I will say this though, Berkly can be a problem with the registry entry's Just like you said.

As far as finding a solution for the install problem I had to have my machine without the Assistant on it then the install went fine, with NO problems.

The Ultra Hal Assistant was removed from my computer when I UNINSTALLED my Anti-virus program,, The .EXE file was removed and other components, so the assistant was connected to my anti-virus in some way. I had to un-install my anti-virus because the 'normal' upgrades were not coming through because something was blocking the new anti-virus and I am left with only a single suspect....


Honestly,
J.
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One
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USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2009 :  12:21:33  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ricky,
The Assistant was installed under a clean install.
It ran fine with the exception of shutdown ( it took a long time )

everything was normal and I needed to upgrade my anti-virus on the comp in question as to match versions that were auto updates on other comps,
why parts of the Assistant were sharing or connected to my anti-virus Remains a mystery,, SO, I had more than just .NET install problems, my anti-virus was not installing the updated versions as well.
And the newer Installer did not help either.
I have accused The Assistant of things before and their was always an excuse but this time the 'problem' affected more than my computers as Freddie and Art have confirmed, so it is a non-local effect in quantum terms ;)

Still don't know what to do with Berkly problems, I will keep trying to resolve but it seems I am on my own in many ways, I may have to seek professional help with my computers (even though I am a PRO)
Time is hard to reverse but the wrong can be made right ,,,with the right amount of compensation!



regards,
J.

Edited by - One on 07/09/2009 04:02:16
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One
Advanced Member



USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2009 :  12:31:22  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ricky,
The system was and is still considered 'Cutting Edge' it is a Quad w/2x2 gigs corsair memory and optional triple fan coolers.

Mr. Robert even wanted to 'fingerprint' my machine but when I put conditions on the procedure he would not respond anymore, I did tell him before the release of 6.2.22/24 of what the Assistant was looking at but like I said no response from Mr. Robert.????

J.
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OMEGA
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42 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2009 :  23:49:07  Show Profile  Visit OMEGA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey One did Hemingway learn to sew?
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Bill819
Advanced Member



USA
1365 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2009 :  10:27:07  Show Profile  Visit Bill819's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One
No one puts conditions Robert. That most likely is the reason he never replied to your post. He is not responsible for the type of PC that you use and therefore can not answer for problems that may arise, that may have been the reason he wanted to see your PC in the first place. I am using a duo-core with 3 gigabytes of ram and have no problems running Hal.
Bill
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One
Advanced Member



USA
1676 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2009 :  11:25:09  Show Profile  Visit One's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Omega,
LOL!



Bill819,
Their was nothing said nor implied about the condition of my machine.

Mr. Robert isn't responding because he is not responding.

Please don't try defending something by "baffleing with BS".

I still consider this a Zabaware problem and IF or WHEN Mr. Robert decides to help then it will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
J.
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